Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/28/1995 09:15 AM Senate FIN

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       SENATE BILL NO. 121                                                     
       "An  Act   making   an   appropriation   for   deferred                 
  maintenance for      the University of Alaska; and providing                 
  for an effective          date."                                             
                                                                               
  Co-chair Halford stated  that SB 121 would  appropriate $135                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  million  from AHFC  after the  Board transferred  it  to the                 
  general fund  to the university  for major maintenance.   He                 
  referred  to  the  resolutions  and  the  statement  by  the                 
  university regarding major maintenance.                                      
                                                                               
  Senator Phillips asked how much money was being removed from                 
  AHFC.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-chair Halford responded that the capital  budget utilizes                 
  $70 million of AHFC money.  The governor's proposal on major                 
  maintenance uses another $30 million, which requires AHFC to                 
  sell bonds and carry the debt service on the bonds.   In the                 
  governor's cash flow projection, it  is showing $450 million                 
  from the constitutional budget reserve  and $70 million from                 
  AHFC.  He  stated  that  deferred   maintenance  has  to  be                 
  addressed.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Wendy  Redman, University of Alaska, stated the need for the                 
  maintenance.    She pointed  out  that  nearly  80%  of  the                 
  buildings are 30 years or older,  and that the university is                 
  contained in 50%  of the buildings owned by the state.  This                 
  puts  a  hardship  on  the  state,  with  an  investment  of                 
  thousands of dollars in buildings that are beginning to fall                 
  apart. Ms. Redman spoke to  the concern of the mismanagement                 
  over the years  to allow the  buildings to deteriorate.  She                 
  stated that this is not true.  There was no money moved from                 
  maintenance accounts into  administration or academics.   In                 
  1986 when there  was a  20% budget reduction,  there was  $1                 
  million  at  the  Fairbanks  campus   that  was  taken  from                 
  maintenance to keep programs going.  The  money was replaced                 
  that  fall,  into the  maintenance  account, which  has been                 
  audited.   The problem has developed over time because there                 
  hasn't been enough money appropriated  to fix the buildings.                 
  She  stated  that  last year  the  university  received zero                 
  capital dollars.   She stated that  this has been a  10-year                 
  accumulation  which has accelerated.  It continues to be the                 
  Board's highest priority.  There are major health and safety                 
  issues  that  the  campuses are  facing  with  deteriorating                 
  facilities that are dangerous for  students to be occupying.                 
  The  Anchorage  campus  will cost  $40  million  in deferred                 
  maintenance, with Fairbanks needing even more attention.                     
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger asked who determines the needs of the various                 
  campuses?   Ms. Redman responded  that the Board  of Regents                 
  and  the  university use  a  formula system  of prioritizing                 
  deferred maintenance programs,  which is  also used by  DOT.                 
  The formula is updated several times a year as needed.   The                 
  Office  of  Management and  Budget  (OM&B) has  the complete                 
  backup list  of all  the  projects, starting  with the  most                 
  need.   OM&B  is not  involved in making  individual project                 
  decisions. The university makes the decisions.                               
                                                                               
  Senator Donley stated  that in  his opinion the  maintenance                 
  should not be a capital item, but rather an operational item                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  in the budget.  Ms. Redman said  she agreed with this logic.                 
  Three years ago, the  Board of Regents did mandate  that the                 
  university  would  not  be  dependent  on "hoping  that  the                 
  legislature funded the operating maintenance requests".   In                 
  building new buildings there has been requests for operating                 
  maintenance to go along with those facilities. It is rarely,                 
  if ever, funded.   The  university's general fund  operating                 
  budget is exactly where it was 10 years ago. There  has been                 
  an increasing enrollment of 22% over  the past 10 years, but                 
  the general fund has  remained flat.  The tuition  money has                 
  been utilized to meet the need in student growth.  The Board                 
  of Regents agree  with what you  are indicating.  The  Board                 
  has said to the university, "don't expect any money from the                 
  state  to  build up  the  operating deficit  in maintenance"                 
  which is at this time guessed to be $11 million.   The Board                 
  has reallocated existing  resources over a 3-year  period of                 
  time to bring the maintenance budgets  up to where they need                 
  to be, based on a  formula.  The Fairbanks campus will  have                 
  to reallocate from current funds this year $4 million.                       
                                                                               
  Senator Donley asked  about future  maintenance issues.  Ms.                 
  Redman responded that  it is the  Board's intention to  have                 
  the maintenance costs rolled into the operating budget.  The                 
  campuses  have to  cut programs,  restrict enrollments,  and                 
  essentially  do  whatever  they have  to  do,  to bring  the                 
  maintenance budgets up.                                                      
                                                                               
  Pat  Pourchot,  Legislative Director  for  Governor Knowles,                 
  stated the  administration's concerns  with the direct  draw                 
  against the  reserves.   In  this case,  $35 million  versus                 
  putting a number  into the on-going annual  capital projects                 
  of  the  AHFC.   AHFC  would  issue and  be  responsible for                 
  servicing bonds.   That is the  case in the governor's  bill                 
  for the $30 million  allocated from the governor's  bill for                 
  student housing maintenance.   The allocation is  limited to                 
  student housing maintenance which the governor feels is more                 
  in line with the  on-going work and purposes and  mission of                 
  AHFC.   This  bill does  not distinguish  between major,  or                 
  deferred, maintenance for housing as opposed to other items.                 
  The  governor's approach  is to address  the other  key non-                 
  housing maintenance needs in  the capital budget.  There  is                 
  about $7 million in the capital budget that the governor has                 
  submitted  for  non-housing  goals.   The  difference within                 
  AHFC, due to  its special tax  situation, is its ability  to                 
  borrow  money  at low  interest rates.    In turn,  AHFC can                 
  invest its  reserves at  higher interest  rates.  By  having                 
  AHFC servicing their bonds  over a length of time,  the real                 
  cost of that money is significantly  reduced.  So, there are                 
  very real  and clear  reasons  for having  AHFC finance  and                 
  amortize the costs of the bonds,  opposed to a straight draw                 
  in cash off the reserves.  The reserves work for AHFC in its                 
  on-going  projects  and  missions,  one  of  which,  can  be                 
  legitimate student housing maintenance.                                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chair Halford stated  he has  the same goals,  expressing                 
  concern  with  last  years approach  to  revenue  bonding or                 
  borrowing.   He emphasized  that with  the huge  maintenance                 
  backlog, this method borrowed into the future to pay for the                 
  mistake  of the  past. He  supports allocating the  funds to                 
  where  they  are needed,  to  catch  up from  real  dollars,                 
  instead of borrowing from the future.   AHFC internally does                 
  not gain or loose very much from the difference.                             
                                                                               
  Mr.  Pourchot  stated that  in  terms of  revenue  bonds and                 
  university or  housing maintenance,  there is  no cash  flow                 
  going  towards those  bonds.  Ideally,  capital budget  cash                 
  would be the best way of addressing the problem.   He stated                 
  that now, the state  is faced with an incredible  backlog of                 
  maintenance  and  even with  a 5-year  plan,  it would  be a                 
  stretch for capital dollars.   That is what  has led to  the                 
  governor's proposal.  The disadvantage again of the straight                 
  draw off the  reserves is  that by keeping  the reserves  of                 
  AHFC, it can  provide valuable programs into the future with                 
  the ability to make  money or at least narrow  the real rate                 
  of borrowing within their own agency to minimal levels.                      
                                                                               
  Co-chair Halford asked  what the governor's approach  is for                 
  next year when  the answer this  year is $30.0 for  housing?                 
  If it means borrowing continuously for  each and every step,                 
  then what is created is  a passing debt.  Mr.  Pourchot said                 
  that is why the "back stop"  legislation was introduced.  It                 
  was  granting  the university  authority  to issue  its' own                 
  revenue bonds  that would be  repaid through a  general fund                 
  budget  category, if the  administration and legislature did                 
  not  act  on some  other  plan  prior to  June,  1. Co-chair                 
  Halford stated that  it does not  apply to maintenance.   It                 
  would work on a  new dormitory with new receipts,  but asked                 
  how that works  on past  maintenance on  a common  building.                 
  Mr. Pourchot  stated that  it work  only in  the sense  that                 
  there  is  no  revenue  stream  to  repay the  bonds.    The                 
  repayment  comes into the front  section of the budget along                 
  with $10-$11 million.   It's  just another operating  budget                 
  item for  debt service.   The  reason for  that was  to meet                 
  pressing needs.   The development that Co-Chair  Halford was                 
  referring to is the  project in the next several  months, in                 
  the  development  of the  whole  budgeting process  for next                 
  year.    There is  no  concrete  plan for  the  mechanism of                 
  addressing the balance  of the  backlog of maintenance.  The                 
  governor's pledge is to work on this and develop a plan.  No                 
  options  have  been  selected beyond  this  year.   Co-chair                 
  Halford   stated  his concerned  that if  revenue bonds  are                 
  passed,  and  becomes  a  state   appropriation,  it  is  in                 
  violation of  the state constitution.  When  using a revenue                 
  bond  to  build  a  dormitory,  with  new  receipts,  it  is                 
  different  than  using  a  revenue bond  to  pay  for  major                 
  maintenance held over  from the past.   Mr. Pourchot  stated                 
  that  it   was  authorized  under   law.  Co-chair   Halford                 
  recognized  that it would  never be found  illegal in Alaska                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  because it was first  done by the Court System to  build the                 
  court building in Juneau.  Other buildings were subsequently                 
  built for the court system.                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-chair Frank moved for  passage of SB 121 with  individual                 
  recommendations.  Senator Phillips OBJECTED without having a                 
  plan for the full-scale funding. Co-chair Halford stated the                 
  question is not decided regarding AHFC.  He said that SB 121                 
  is legitimate start, tho  it will probably sit in  the Rules                 
  Committee, while  other parts are discussed.  He recommended                 
  moving it.   Senator Phillips withdrew his  objection.  With                 
  no further objection, SB 121 REPORTED OUT  of committee with                 
  "other recommendations" by Senators Rieger, Phillips, Donley                 
  and Zharoff. Co-chair  Halford and  Frank and Senator  Sharp                 
  recommended "do pass".                                                       
                                                                               

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